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	<title>Comments on: Antony Flew says There Is A God</title>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, to be clear, Flew is no Christian and is not even close. He thinks if the Christian God exists then he is a thoroughly immoral being. He simply has accepted that there is evidence enough to believe bare theism, what some call deism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, to be clear, Flew is no Christian and is not even close. He thinks if the Christian God exists then he is a thoroughly immoral being. He simply has accepted that there is evidence enough to believe bare theism, what some call deism.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Aulia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Aulia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that he can follow God genuinely, experience His abundant grace, and share it to the world.

People usually get amazed on someone who used to be an atheist and then become a Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that he can follow God genuinely, experience His abundant grace, and share it to the world.</p>
<p>People usually get amazed on someone who used to be an atheist and then become a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Olsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information, Jeremy. It&#039;s helpful to have a range of views represented.

In the end, the debate can&#039;t be won or lost based on the thoughts of one person, so I&#039;m intrigued that many are so quick to try to discredit the book and Flew&#039;s change of heart. I certainly won&#039;t be abandoning my faith if a high profile believer &#039;switches sides&#039; and I wouldn&#039;t attempt to discredit their new opinions.

I appreciate the respectful manner in which Robert raises the points he does and I&#039;m hoping that the discussion can remain respectful whichever point of view people hold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information, Jeremy. It&#8217;s helpful to have a range of views represented.</p>
<p>In the end, the debate can&#8217;t be won or lost based on the thoughts of one person, so I&#8217;m intrigued that many are so quick to try to discredit the book and Flew&#8217;s change of heart. I certainly won&#8217;t be abandoning my faith if a high profile believer &#8216;switches sides&#8217; and I wouldn&#8217;t attempt to discredit their new opinions.</p>
<p>I appreciate the respectful manner in which Robert raises the points he does and I&#8217;m hoping that the discussion can remain respectful whichever point of view people hold.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia has some more up-to-date information&lt;/a&gt; on the response to the hoax perpetrated by Mark Oppenheimer, P.Z. Myers, Richard Carrier, and others about Flew&#039;s book with Varghese. Flew has done several interviews affirming his belief in some sort of deity, including a radio interview where if it hadn&#039;t been him anyone who knew his voice would have been able to tell. He has reaffirmed his support for intelligent design based on the fine-tuning of cosmological constants in physics. He has reaffirmed his view that the origin of life can&#039;t just be due to lucky chance, picking out Dawkins in particular as someone who holds that view and disagreeing. There&#039;s even a reference toward the end of the article about Oppenheimer himself seemingly admitting to Flew&#039;s acceptance of deism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia has some more up-to-date information</a> on the response to the hoax perpetrated by Mark Oppenheimer, P.Z. Myers, Richard Carrier, and others about Flew&#8217;s book with Varghese. Flew has done several interviews affirming his belief in some sort of deity, including a radio interview where if it hadn&#8217;t been him anyone who knew his voice would have been able to tell. He has reaffirmed his support for intelligent design based on the fine-tuning of cosmological constants in physics. He has reaffirmed his view that the origin of life can&#8217;t just be due to lucky chance, picking out Dawkins in particular as someone who holds that view and disagreeing. There&#8217;s even a reference toward the end of the article about Oppenheimer himself seemingly admitting to Flew&#8217;s acceptance of deism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flew did an interview with &lt;i&gt;Philosophia Christi&lt;/i&gt; around the time the book came out, and the guy who did the interview did indeed do it with Flew. It was someone who has known Flew for quite a while, too, and not someone who would deliberately invent an interview that didn&#039;t happen. There&#039;s this hoax going around being perpetrated by gullible atheists who don&#039;t want to accept that a former atheist could accept even a very thin theism, but it&#039;s just stupid.

Their first attempt was to leave erroneous messages on people&#039;s blogs that talked about this but directed people to something Flew wrote several years before he started accepting God&#039;s existence as plausible. How that was supposed to refute a later change in his views I still haven&#039;t figured out, but when I started pointing out the date differences they left my blog alone. So now they&#039;re just acting as if there&#039;s no way he could have written the book or held any views remotely like what the book says, and yet there&#039;s no evidence given for such claims. It&#039;s a serious charge that they&#039;re issuing, and there&#039;s simply no evidence for it. It&#039;s wishful thinking by some people who can&#039;t allow that someone might go from atheism to theism, even though people do it all the time. Just because it&#039;s more common to go the other way doesn&#039;t mean smart people can&#039;t become theists.

I never thought Flew was all that exceptional as a philosopher. He was always sort of seen as a crank, the way many of the Christian apologists are seen by professional philosophers. He also still has very serious reservations about a good God creating anything like the world we&#039;ve got now because of the problem of evil. But he does now think the fine-tuning design argument is a pretty good argument. Why is that so hard for people to accept?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flew did an interview with <i>Philosophia Christi</i> around the time the book came out, and the guy who did the interview did indeed do it with Flew. It was someone who has known Flew for quite a while, too, and not someone who would deliberately invent an interview that didn&#8217;t happen. There&#8217;s this hoax going around being perpetrated by gullible atheists who don&#8217;t want to accept that a former atheist could accept even a very thin theism, but it&#8217;s just stupid.</p>
<p>Their first attempt was to leave erroneous messages on people&#8217;s blogs that talked about this but directed people to something Flew wrote several years before he started accepting God&#8217;s existence as plausible. How that was supposed to refute a later change in his views I still haven&#8217;t figured out, but when I started pointing out the date differences they left my blog alone. So now they&#8217;re just acting as if there&#8217;s no way he could have written the book or held any views remotely like what the book says, and yet there&#8217;s no evidence given for such claims. It&#8217;s a serious charge that they&#8217;re issuing, and there&#8217;s simply no evidence for it. It&#8217;s wishful thinking by some people who can&#8217;t allow that someone might go from atheism to theism, even though people do it all the time. Just because it&#8217;s more common to go the other way doesn&#8217;t mean smart people can&#8217;t become theists.</p>
<p>I never thought Flew was all that exceptional as a philosopher. He was always sort of seen as a crank, the way many of the Christian apologists are seen by professional philosophers. He also still has very serious reservations about a good God creating anything like the world we&#8217;ve got now because of the problem of evil. But he does now think the fine-tuning design argument is a pretty good argument. Why is that so hard for people to accept?</p>
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