The Cross

TheCross.jpgWhat is the cross really all about?

It’s a symbol used to mark grave sites. It’s hung from gold chains around people’s necks. People sing songs about the power of the cross. Crosses decorate churches around the world but what is the true significance of the cross?

My regular Wednesday morning guest on 98.5 Sonshine FM is Ross Clifford who is the Principal of Morling College in New South Wales and current President of the Baptist Union of Australia. Each week we chat about a range of issues relating to spirituality and belief.

Today we discussed the cross and looked at what the Christian Scriptures have to say about the old rugged cross.

We also touched on the current debate of whether Jesus’ death on the cross was about taking our punishment. Many people, including some Christians, have been discussing whether it is possible to love the kind of God that would sacrifice his son in such a violent manner.

Listen to the discussion by clicking play on the audio player at the bottom of this post.

Once you’ve heard what Ross had to say, please leave a comment or two with your views.



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The Great South Land – Synchroblog

After a very busy weekend I’m running a bit late getting this post published but I figure it’s still out during the Australia Day long weekend.

This post is part of the Christianity In Australia synchroblog which a number of Australian Christians are participating in to celebrate Australia Day.

I don’t really have anything profound to say, it’s more just some musings that I’ve been throwing around in my mind for a while about the spiritual heritage we have here in Australia. I’ve been wondering about the place that a Christian past should have in our future. Maybe you can throw in your ideas.

My concern for some time has been that many people yearn for a former ‘golden age’ of Christianity in Australia which may or may not have ever existed.

Many will be familiar with references to the ‘Great South Land of the Holy Spirit.’ We talk about it, we sing about it, but what’s it really all about? Can we really claim that this is God’s own country? Is there something spiritually significant about this nation of ours beyond the fact that all the earth belongs to God?

The Great South Land of the Holy Spirit reference stems from a proclamation by Captain Pedro Fernandez de Quiros, a Portugese seaman and explorer.

In March 1603 Queirós was finally authorized to return to Peru to establish another expedition, with the intention of finding Terra Australis, the mythical “great south land,” and claiming it for Spain and the Church. Queirós’s party of 160 men on three ships, San Pedro y San Pablo (150 tons), San Pedro (120 tons) and the tender (or launch) Los Tres Reyes left Callao on 21 December 1605.

In May 1606 the expedition reached the islands later called the New Hebrides and now the independent nation of Vanuatu. Queirós landed on a large island which he took to be part of the southern continent, and named it La Austrialia del Espiritu Santo (The Austrian Land of the Holy Spirit), for King Philip III, who was of Austrian descent. The island is still called Espiritu Santo. Here he stated his intention to establish a colony, to be called Nova Jerusalem.

Queirós’s religious fervour found expression with the founding of a new Order of Chivalry, the Knights of the Holy Ghost. The Order’s purpose was to protect the new colony. However, within weeks the idea of a colony was abandoned due to the hostility of the Ni-Vanuatu and to disagreements among the crew.– Wikipedia.org

So while the captain did make it into the area, it would seem that he never set foot on mainland Australia. However, the proclamation he made certainly included Australia.

Let the heavens, the earth, the waters with all their creatures and all those here present witness that I, Captain Pedro Fernandez de Quiros, in the name of Jesus Christ, hoist this emblem of the Holy Cross on which Jesus Christ’s person was crucified and whereon He gave His life for the ransom and remedy of the human race, on this day of Pentecost, 14 May 1606, I take possession of all this part of the South as far as the pole in the name of Jesus, which from now on shall be called the Southern land of the Holy Spirit and this always and forever to the end that to all natives, in all the said lands, the holy, sacred evangel may be preached zealously and openly.

I guess the next question is what weight such a proclamation holds. I’m not saying that it’s not significant, I just wonder what it means. He was claiming and naming land that was already inhabited.  Even if the proclamation is sound, what significance should it hold for Christians in today’s Australia? We see people in scripture claiming lands for God so such instances aren’t without precedents but what difference should this particular proclamation hold for us in 2008?

Many people also claim that a ‘missing’ 6th verse from our national anthem, Advance Australia Fair, shows that this is a nation with strong Christian heritage.

With Christ our head and cornerstone, we’ll build our Nation’s might,
Whose way and truth and light alone, can guide our path aright.
Our lives, a sacrifice of love, reflect our Master’s care
With faces turned to heaven above, Advance Australia fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing, Advance Australia fair.

While a lot of people say that leaving this verse out of our national anthem shows the hardening of Australian hearts towards the things of God, historians would say that they can find no evidence for this verse being in the original version of the anthem or that it was penned by the original writer. It is unknown who wrote the verse or when it was added.

I know that there is a great Christian history in this nation, and that many fine people of faith have helped create the country we call home, but I’m concerned that some people spend a lot of time searching for some kind of divine right to call Australia a Christian country. We may have been founded upon certain Christian principals but we’ve long since given up the right to call ourselves a Christian nation.

For me, I think the way forward is to to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with our God. We must always be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks us for a reason for the hope that is in us, answering with gentleness and reverence. I truly believe that fellow Aussies are more likely to respond to that approach than to one that claims that we have a divine right to call the shots.

As I said, these are just a few thoughts that have been knocking around in my head and I’d appreciate your thoughts Are we really the Geat South Land of the Holy Spirit? If so, what does that mean for us today?

For more (and possibly far more coherent thoughts) on Christianity in Australia see:



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More from Kenya

The Brooks FamilyJohnny has published another post about the current situation in Kenya.

Here are a few lines from his post, Nakuru January 2, 2008, describing his attempts to check on neighbours and survey the situation in Nakuru.

I was unable to visit a few neighborhoods. Seems that the residents are stoning vehicles to keep the police out. Fear and suspicion rule the day here. Neighbors have turned on neighbors and armed gangs are running about causing havoc. Of course not everyone has sunk to this cave man attitude about members of other tribes. We hear stories of neighbors banding together despite ethnic differences to protect each other.

The innocent are getting caught up in what I would describe as tribal conflict between Kikuyus, Luos, and the Kalenjin. I have a friend who is Kissi. In his neighborhood he is a minority. Luos and Kikuyus outnumber his tribe, but do not have numbers large enough to oust each other. Each tribe, Luo and Kikuyu formed security squads to patrol at night. My friend was approached by both sides, but he told me he did not know what to do. Joining any of them would pit him against the others, and ultimately endanger his wife and daughter. Rape is common in these attacks, and the assailants do not care how old or how young you are.

Please take the time to visit Pure Christianity and let Johnny, Kate and their children know that you’re thinking of them and praying for them and the people they are serving during this very difficult time.

Please spread the word. If you keep a blog please point people towards Johnny’s blog so that they can stay up to date with the situation and pray for the specific needs that will arise over the coming weeks and months.



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The Case for Interfaith Dialogue

bigpar.gifIs it arrogant to claim that any one religion has an exclusive connection to God? Does discussing faith matters with followers of other religions mean that we think it doesn’t matter which spiritual path you take? What is the role of interfaith dialogue in our spiritual walk?

I grew up in 60s and 70s in the suburbs of Perth, Western Australia. That means that I’ve generally had little connection with people who follow other spiritual paths. My two trips to India have helped to broaden my understanding of those who don’t hold to the same beliefs that I do. I haven’t changed my view that Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life, but thankfully I can dialogue with others about their journey without feeling that my own beliefs are being threatened.

The 2009 Parliament of the World’s Religions was recently launched at Federation Square in Melbourne Australia. It’s an event with an 114 year history and it occurs somewhere around the the world every 5 years.

The 2009 event is to be held in Melbourne and is expected to attract eight to ten thousand guests from eighty countries as well as more than five thousand Australians, providing opportunity for ordinary people of faith – Christians, Jews and Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists – to share their faith with each other and learn more about what each other believe.

Respected theologian, speaker, author and director of John Mark Ministries, Rev Dr Rowland Croucher believes strongly that interfaith activities are something that ‘real’ Christians need to involve themselves in. I recently spoke to him on 98.5 Sonshine FM.

Rowland has years of experience in talking through the tough questions with a range of people on their own spiritual search. He has some brilliant things to say and I heartily recommend that you listen to our interview by clicking the audio player below.



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Exiles: Living Missionally in a Post-Christian Culture

exilesEvery now and then I get to record a radio interview that I want to listen to over and over again. One such case is my interview with Michael Frost about his current book, Exiles: Living Missionally in a Post-Christian Culture.

Mike has so many good things to say and he says them so well.

He previously wrote The Shaping of Things to Come together with Alan Hirsch. ‘Shaping’ is a book aimed at church leadership giving leaders ideas on reshaping church for the current culture. It was a great read and so I was very keen to get copies of Exiles and Alan Hirsch’s current book, The Forgotten Ways when I heard that they were available.

I’m currently working my way through Exiles and thoroughly enjoying it, so it’s wonderful to be able to spread Mike’s message to a wider audience through the interview.

We live in a time when more followers of Jesus are living outside the church than ever before. People who are still very keen to follow Christ are giving up on going to church. What does that say about the people that are ‘dropping out’ and what does it say about the church?

In the interview with Michael Frost we look at just what is meant by the term post-Christian culture. We also talk about Mike’s use of the term exiles. Are we really exiled in a foreign culture? How do we thrive in a post-Christian culture while staying faithful to Jesus? How much should we engage with the current culture? How much do we stand up against the existing culture?

My interview will be broadcast on 98.5 Sonshine FM this Sunday night and then replayed on Monday night. You can hear the interview by clicking the play button on the audio player at the bottom of this post.

If you missed my earlier post, I interviewed Alan Hirsch about his current book, The Forgotten Ways, a couple of weeks back and thoroughly enjoyed the conversation.

If you’ve read Exiles I’d love to hear your thoughts. I look forward to your comments.



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